1. A "secret rapture" can not be found in scripture. Quite the contrary. The teachings of Jesus plainly tells us that all tribes of the earth shall see Him in the clouds at His coming. (Matt. 24:29-31) (Mark 13:26-27) (Luke 21:27-28) (Rev. 1:7)

2. Most preachers preach that the Lord will come as "a thief in the night." This is not true for the believer, only for the world. The church will be watching and waiting for His coming. (I Thess. 4:4-6) "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober."

3. The Pre-tribulationists have had to invent a way for there to be a group called the "tribulation saints" which are spoken of in Rev. 7:13-17. Their basic message is that God will send the two witnesses to save Israel after the church has raptured at Rev. 4:1. This is why they say that the "saints" are Israel and not the church. Some of them will go so far as to say that the old testament teaching of blood sacrifice will be reinstated for their salvation. To teach such a doctrine blasphemes Calvary, and Jesus did not die for all men, but for a predominant Gentile church. The very thought that the church is Gentile is an insult to the Cross, and who Jesus really is. The facts are, there is no scripture basis for anyone being saved after the rapture. If these teachings are true, then we would have one church in the rapture with the Lord, and one church on earth. A two church concepts violates the very principle of who God is. If God is anything, he is oneness. There are no separations in Him. HE IS ONE! In fact. He does not even separate His church from Him. We have been declared by scripture to be the very "body of Christ."

4. There would be no purpose for an Anti-Christ to arise in the last days after the rapture. The very fundamental meaning of Anti-Christ is to be against Christ. For this to happen after the church is gone is redundant. I've got more confidence in God than to think that He thinks in such unreasonable terms. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Not only that, it violates the Word of God and the intent of God. The church will be as "gold tried in the fire." Rev. 7:14 speaks of the group which "came out of great tribulation." This has got to be an end-time church (revival). The very fact that they "came out" tells us that they "went into" for there is not no way you can come out of anything you have never been in.

5. One final question. Why would ministries spend endless hours and years studying end-time prophecy, including writing books, and conclude that the church raptures at Rev. 4:1, and that the rest of Revelation does not pertain to the church? I cannot conceive that God would let John spend the time writing it, which would be the only part of the bible that doesn't pertain to the church, nor these ministries wasting their time on something that is not important to the church. THERE IS SOMETHING NOT COMING TOGETHER HERE. Maybe someone can share that light with me.